- 00:55 – Who is Natalie Moutia?
- 04:00 – The world may be your oyster but… what if you’re shy?
- 06:00 – THIS is the whole point about networking!
- 07:40 – Nothing beats this ancient advertising technique
- 11:15 – Natalie: “[networking] would have saved me a lot of time, a lot of money, and a lot of headache”
- 13:00 – What is the one simple approach which can turn your competitors into your allies?
- 14:52 – The golden chest of LEADS is made of these
- 19:40 – Your cheatsheet with top 10 things to do before, during & after a networking event
- 25:14 – Bonus Tip: The secret tool that helps me keep in touch with my connections
- 27:05 – Nat’s last 3 networking nuggets
- 29:38 – We want 10 winners: 5 networking lunches and 5 memberships if you answer one simple question
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Fiona: Hi there! It’s Fiona Soutter from Super Savvy Business with this week’s weekly podcast.
Now, all of you know that I am very very keen on helping business owners grow their business through the use of the internet, but we all know that you can’t just have one side of approach when it comes to marketing and growing your business, which is why I am very keen on bringing on experts to our podcast series who can talk to us about other ways to grow, market and promote your business.
00:55 – Who is Natalie Moutia?
And with that in mind this is why I have sourced out somebody who is an absolute expert in growing your business through the use of networking.
Today we are very lucky to have Natalie Moutia, who is a director and founder of the Success Women’s Network.
As a little girl, Natalie was playing shops and selling her toys to her younger sister before the age of 10; even playing bank tillers with imaginary bank customers. And since then, Natalie has had a true burning passion and unparalleled enthusiasm to help women in business connect, network, learn, and grow businesses.
Her background includes a degree Bachelor of Commerce with a major in Marketing, corporate marketing experience including hospitality, manufacturing, and retail, and she’s even been a business owner from the age of 25 with her own small business MM Marketing Consulting.
So you can see she’s been pretty busy.
But in between all of that she has also managed to co-found Success Women’s Network in March 2008, which is now in 10 locations around Sydney, Central Coast, and now even the Gold Coast.
Her motto in life is: ‘Live simply, dream big, be grateful, give love, and laugh lots’. When I read that it really makes me realize when I met Natalie why we get on; because she really does have very similar values and attitudes in life. It’s just really, really exciting.
So in today’s presentation what you are going to learn is how to really network effectively, but have fun and focus and really get the best out of networking by following up all the leads and referrals you could ever ask for.
So, welcome Natalie and thank you so much for coming to the Super Savvy Business podcast today.
Natalie: Thanks, Fiona, that’s a very beautiful intro!
Fiona: Well, you know, when we first met, Natalie, i was very very obvious to me that we were very aligned in – you know – our outlooks in life and really, one of the things that I love about you is that you come to business with the most beautiful attitude and positive outlook. To me, bringing you into the Super Savvy Business is only going to be a complete bonus to everybody in our community, especially when you have so much experience when it comes to networking.
I have been a passionate networker now for several years and I have had some amazing opportunities arise as a result of that. This is why I really wanted to bring you on our podcast today to talk about how our community can use podcasting effectively.
Natalie: Absolutely, and thank you so much and the Success Women’s Network family feel the exact same way about you – we’re very excited to be working with you. And I guess we met through networking and just by someone connecting us via email! So you never know where it can lead.
Fiona: That’s exactly right! The alliances and the business partnerships and the job opportunities that can arise are just phenomenal. So Natalie, let’s just jump back a little bit: I mentioned in our intro that you co-founded the Success Women’s Network in March 2008; can you give us a bit of background as to why you ended up setting up the network?
04:00 – The world may be your oyster, but what if you’re shy?
Natalie: Absolutely. I remember going to a networking event; I was very enthusiastic 25 year old starting a new business and thinking, “Okay, the world’s my oyster, I can take all and have fun”. And somebody said “Go to a networking event and start building your contacts”; I said, “Great!”.
So I remember arming myself with my business cards and going to an event. So I remember turning up at an event with men in dark suits; not that that was anything wrong with that. And I was ready to network and share some ideas about marketing and business and not a single person approached me.
And I thought, “This is terrible. If I feel intimidated and I am fairly enthusiastic and bubbly and ready to meet anyone… if I felt intimidated, imagine the ladies that were a little bit more shy than I was or lacking any bit of confidence and self-esteem… how are they going to go connecting and meeting new people and growing their business?”
So it was always in the back of my mind that I wanted to help women never feel like that ever again. So I attended a lot of networking events between the ages of 25 to 30 and then the opportunity arose when one of the groups that we were part of was disbanded. And when that disbanded in 2007 we thought “Let’s start a group of our own”. And we started in March 2008 on International Women’s Day – we just happened to choose a date that fell on that day and, as I said, the rest was history.
We invited a whole heap of ladies along to lunch in the Hills area where we were originally from, and had a whole heap of interest. And now, 5 years later as you mentioned in your into, we are in 10 locations and helping women as much as we can!
Fiona: And that’s exciting, you have now grown outside of the New South Wales region and into the Gold Coast.
So we’ll talk a bit more about your plans with what you are doing with the Success Women Network because I know that there are some exciting things going on and we have a very special offer for our community at Super Savvy Business that you very generously offered for us. So we’ll talk about that at the end.
06:00 – THIS is the whole point about networking!
Let’s dive in now into the benefits of networking and why it is so important to business owners.
Natalie: Absolutely. I guess that a couple of things… well, some people may have the idea that networking is about selling. It’s about making money right now and it’s something that you could just do when you want something.
And I have come from the mantra of the belief that networking is all about people and it’s all about building relationships. Through building those relationships people get to know you, they get to like you, and then they get to do business with you. It is not something that happens instantly. And I have found just through doing networking organically and coming from a place of giving, it’s not only grow my business, we’ve built a business with that networking over 5 years, but it has also given us access to even more contacts, it has helped providing a network to everyone else within the network, it’s a great way of building your resources, gaining more knowledge, generating leads, and I find nothing beats that word of mouth advertising when somebody refers you or gives you a lead because they really believe in what you do.
I think that is really powerful for any business to have those tools automatically working for you.
07:40 – Nothing beats this ancient advertising technique
Fiona: Look, I’d love to pick up on something there:
Can we talk about that a little bit more? Because to me that has been one of the core strengths of my business, really, and how I have managed to grow my business especially in the early days when I was at that grassroots level.
You know, when somebody refers to somebody they know, the power in that is extremely strong, isn’t it? Compared to picking up the phone and having a cold lead.
Natalie: Absolutely. And I think that we all know that all the traditional marketing that has happened in the past, and all the mass-marketing, doesn’t work anymore. And there is so much noise out there especially for busy business owners and trying to cut through that is not impossible but very very difficult if you do not have a relationship or at lead a warm lead with a referral or a lead.
So I find when people recommend us, for example, it is so much more easier than us calling somebody out of a directory or just calling somebody cold… Because somebody has already recommended us, they are already ready to do business with us and they are very open to the idea of at least getting more information.
I find that more powerful than any sort of mass-advertising because somebody is going to have a way to recommend you and people take those recommendations very seriously and I don’t think people hand out recommendations easily as well because it is a reflexion of their character, a reflexion of their business.
If someone is happy to refer you they are saying they like you enough to refer other people and with that new person they feel like they can do business with you safely, because it has been recommended. So I think that, yeah, it is very powerful.
Fiona: And I think too in the digital age, as everyone knows, I preach internet, building your list online, and nurturing your database online through your autoresponders and emails and videos and all those sorts of things … but that’s quite a lengthy process, you know? To develop that know-like-trust factor.
And when you are live, in a room, face to face to people, it is a lot more powerful and a lot more faster – wouldn’t you agree? – to be able to build that know-like-trust factor with people.
Natalie: Absolutely. I think that especially us women, we love putting a face to a name, and I feel like women – especially in business – are a lot more collaborative. When you get to meet someone face to face, we are coming from a space of, you know, “How is your business going? How can we help you?”. You can instantly see people sharing ideas or discussing a challenge they might be having. And that intimate relationship could be over just one lunch. And the amount of business that comes through it (or support) is unbelievable.
A lady might say, “Look, I am having this problem with my business”, and you should see all the hands coming up and say, “Look, I have tried this”, or, “Why don’t you call this person? They might be able to help”.
So I feel that having that face-to-face contact – although that takes a little bit of time as well – is definitely very powerful for a couple of reasons, because it is nothing like connecting with somebody. And once you have connected with them it is so much more easier to pass your business to them and to recommend them than just doing a cold … yeah, like I said before, like offer directly or not having that relationship. So it is a two-way straight I think.
11:15 – Natalie: “[networking] would have saved me a lot of time, a lot of money, and a lot of headache”
Fiona: Okay, so you just brought up another topic. Obviously one of the benefits of networking is to build relationships with people who may either want to do business with you directly or may refer others to you. You just brought up another topic, which is that when you go to networking events then you are able to have conversations with other business owners who may be able to help you brainstorm or mastermind on different areas of your business that you are wanting to grow or having difficulties with or just get fresh ideas.
Natalie: Yeah, absolutely, and I find that invaluable because once you have like, you know, 15-20 ladies in a room, they have all got similar experiences, they have gone through a certain process and they have learned through that.
And I know from when I first started my business when someone came to me and said, “Oh, look, I have tried that; why don’t you try this for your business?” would have saved me a lot of time, a lot of money and a lot of headache. If somebody was just able to say, “Look, I have done this and this is what I have learned”.
So I find it a real process of really helping each other and that face-to-face relationship you get to build that trust with that person so you open to hear other people’s ideas. You can even learn from somebody else’s challenges. You might be smooth sailing in your business which is great, but then you might learn from somebody else who is sitting next to you and they are going through a particular… whatever issue or challenge it might be, you learn from that experience and you take all your notes so when you cross that bridge you may be armed with some information that may be able to help you make a decision.
I, I still get a kick out of it after 5 years.
13:00 – What is the one simple approach which can turn your competitors into your allies?
Fiona: Yeah, yeah, and the thing that I found too is even if you are in a networking group and there are other people who have businesses which are quite similar to yours, you don’t even need to necessarily see them as your competition, and you can’t talk to them or whatever, because actually … to be able to sit down and talk to someone who is in the same business as you are can be extremely powerful.
You don’t need to see them as the dark side, or the people that you need to stay clear of, because you can actually be quite supportive of one another, because there is certainly so much opportunity out there in our community in Australia as far a business is concerned (and worldwide, beyond Australia). So I have actually got a lot of benefit from meeting other business owners who have businesses similar to mine.
Natalie: Yeah, that is a very favourite topic of mine and I can even recall an example from this when we had 2 VAs in the room and one of the ladies approached me and said, “Oh, there’s another Virtual Assistant here!”, I said, “That’s fantastic! So why don’t you connect with her and if you have got an overflow of work or you score a really big project or client you could build a relationship with this particular person and they will be able to help you so you don’t feel like you have to do it all on your own as a, you know, a solo entrepreneur”
And she said, “Oh, yea, I never thought about it like that. Sure!”
Competition isn’t your competition unless… uhm… I think it is all about your mindset. I think that if you look at it as a strategic alliance, they are the people that you are targeting if you are targeting the same sort of people, then wouldn’t it make sense to work together where you can?
14:52 – The golden chest of leads is made of these
Fiona: So my name is Fiona Soutter and we’re talking today with Natalie Moutia from the Success Women’s Network about the benefits of business owners going to networking functions.
Now, we were just talking about the benefits as far as being able to get referrals, but also being able to mastermind and brainstorm with other business owners.
But there is another thing that I know for myself personally it has been extremely powerful for me going to networking groups and that is the possibility of forming joint partnerships or strategic alliances. So I am just wondering whether you might be able to touch on that for us for a little while.
Natalie: Absolutely, I think that is another favourite topic of mine and that floats my boat. I don’t know how many people I have met over the years who we’ve been able to form partnerships and I could rattle off a dozen. For example, we met a magazine that was dealing with women in business and we just met at an event and I said, “We’ll be happy to support you with some advertising and we’d be happy to distribute your magazines throughout the network.” They said, “Great!”.
We went to an expo to an event once and we were there as an exhibitor and that particular event was fairly quiet but met with one exhibitor and scored a solid, major sponsor out of it even though there weren’t a lot of attendees.
Our whole business has been built with three strategic alliances.
Not only is it powerful to tap into everyone else’s networks, it saves a lot of your marketing goes to if you are working with somebody who has the same target market. I find that marketing way more beneficial than – you know – spending the masses on advertising. So strategic alliances is a very big part of what I do and I can’t rave about it enough.
Fiona: And the beauty, of course, of strategic alliances is like you say, not only does it save money and marketing costs for your business, but it’s also one of the fastest ways to grow your business – I believe – because you are getting direct access to a target market through another business that has already got a relationship with them.
So you are getting almost that third party referral but also you are not having to take all this time to find all these leads.
Natalie: Yeah. absolutely, and that’s a very big part of what we do. I recommend any business if you are not sure of it, speak to somebody that is doing it well and ask them about any hints and tips.
Obviously, not all strategic alliances and partnerships work but I feel the biggest key to really making it is that key communication ongoingly and also to come from a place of giving. I have mentioned this before, but if you are willing to give and to share rather than to gain I think long-term it helps you to build a better relationship. If you come from a place of really wanting to help someone you will gain a lot more in the long term and it’s a win-win, it is not a cash or grab, it is not just one side, you know.
Fiona: You literally just took the words out of my mouth; it’s got to be a win-win. And when you … for me, when I approach other businesses to discuss the possibility of strategic alliances I come with that attitude of “This is what I would love to do for you and your community”. Because it is really important that they can see that you are not just in there like you say, just to grab and take advantage of them and all the hard work they have done.
So it is really important when you try to align yourself with another business owner that you come from the approach of “What value can I add to your community, to your clients, to your business?”
Natalie: Absolutely, and you can see that a mile away too. When somebody approaches you and they are off to something in particular you can tell pretty much straight away that they are not coming from a place of giving but just from a place of gaining. And although you try to meet those expectations you know that the relationship is already flawed from the beginning because you are not on the same page.
So it is really good to get those expectations out in the open by using communication to really make it work. And when it does work, it is absolute magic, especially if you have 2 people, which I think is just like us, that is happy to help each other out.
And even if you are not to gain from it straight away, you know that there is a long-term relationship and it’s about building on that and growing and tweaking it as you go, because nothing is perfect, but if you really work hard on giving value, if you really come from a place of wanting to help others and adding value to that person’s world it can be a beautiful thing.
Fiona: So well put, Natalie! Thank you for sharing that!
19:40 – Your cheat sheet with top 10 things to do before, during & after a networking event
Now, Natalie, we are getting very close to the end of our podcast and before we do, I am just wondering if people are already going to networking events and possibly not getting the benefit out of them or maybe they haven’t even been to a networking event… have you got any tips as to how people can make the most of going to networking events such as the Success Women’s Network?
Natalie: Absolutely, and you just took the words right out of my mouth. I wanted to share … I’ve got my top 10 tips. Would you like that? I’ll wrap it up really quickly, would that be good for you?
Fiona: Fantastic! That would be great!
Natalie: Okay, okay. So my top 10 tips if you are starting out with networking, or you have been doing it for a little while… how to get the most out of it no matter what.
1. I think the biggest one is that you come prepared. Bring all your marketing materials, your name badge, your business cards, practice your elevator speech, your short little intro – imagine you are stepping into an elevator with somebody and you’ve only got 30 seconds to explain what you do. Make it really clear and concise, so you come really really prepared.
2. I always go to networking events; I always attend… I get there early, because you get some 101 time with the host, you get some 101 time with the people that are there early as well. I always stay late. I see a lot of people book another meeting directly after a networking event and they have got a hot connection ready to go but they have got to head off to another meeting. So another really good tip is to come early and leave late.
3. Another good one is work in the room in a way that you can ask the host who your ideal referral is and if there is anyone attending that particular event so that the host can strategically connect you with certain people and having a real focus when you are coming to a networking event.
Fiona: That’s a great tip, to even reach out to the host and find out, you know, if they can point you in the right direction. Love that.
Natalie: Yeah, absolutely, you can say that they know everybody in the room so really thinking about what strategic connections you want to make with each of them I think it will help you achieve your objectives.
4. Also, acting like the host and not the guest – if you see anyone and they are lonesome and by themselves – if you are happy to welcome that new guest they will remember you forever because you have really taken them under your wings and shown them the process and I think we really appreciate that if you are in that situation. So acting like a host is a good little tip.
Natalie: 4. And, sometimes, Fiona, have you been to an event where somebody starts rattling off this elevator pitch and you see some faces look like it’s over because they have automatically ruled out that that’s not their particular target market. Have you been there? Have you done that before?
I know I’m guilty.
Fiona: Yes, definitely, yeah. Yes, I have seen that, I have probably been guilty of it myself.
Natalie: Yes, me too, me too, so what I try to remember then is I try to think of this circle of influence.
So, for example, if someone is coming along to an event and they have spoken about their business and they might not be my direct target market, they have got family, friends, and now a massive online community that they have access to so you shouldn’t be ruling anyone out too soon because they have got a massive network of their own that you could tap into if it was done right and if it is appropriate.
Fiona: Okay, that’s a great tip.
Natalie: Uhm, so that’s a… yeah, so I think I have got 5 more. I will be really quick.
5. Maybe sit next to somebody that you don’t know. I have been to that many networking events now and all the ladies get very comfortable and sit with their friends. So I would recommend sitting next to somebody new every time and try to remember their names – their name badges are important.
6. And then, my next tip is follow up after the networking event. You can only do so much at an event, it is always good to catch up. Not just add them to your newsletter or spam them but genuinely send them an email to catch up or say that it was lovely meeting you; maybe even organising a meeting or a Skype call, liking their Facebook page… whatever it might be, but just connect with them afterwards.
Fiona: You know, I think that is one of the most important things, to follow up. And I think, you know, if you are going to take the time to go to networking events, you have also got to commit to following up with people, you know, because there is nothing worse – I know from my earlier days I would come home and have these business cards in my handbag and then I would pull them out and they would go in a drawer. And they would sit there.
And then, 6 months later, I would be going through that drawer and look at the cards and go, “Oh, who was that? O, who was that person?” And you wouldn’t even remember where you met them, what you discussed, what synergies there might have been at the time…
So work out a system for yourself. I think that’s really important as to how you are going to follow up. One thing that I came across recently which is a great way to make part of your habit is to make a commitment to yourself that everyday you are going to make a contact with 4 people.
Now that could be following up from networking events, it could be writing a card to your client, it could be anything at all; it could be any type of contact. But I now make sure that in my 4 people that I contact every day, one of those is a follow up from somebody I know or have met at a networking function or business function.
Natalie: Yeah, absolutely, and that’s a good way of just keeping in touch. Just send a “Hello [text], haven’t heard from you in a little while, hope you’re well”. So yeah, those little things now in business – a handwritten note – these little things go a long way in my opinion.
25:14 – Bonus Tip: The secret tool that helps me keep in touch with my connections
Fiona: Yep, yep… and just so you know, just a little techie note, because you know me – I am a bit of a tech head – I use Gmail as my email client so I now import, you know, those business cards with the people. I have like a group within my contacts list for networking, but then I also have a plugin with Gmail called Mingly, which is M-I-N-G-L-Y.
in Mingly, it will then pop up whenever that person you have contact with them either with email, on the side of your Gmail it will have how you are connected to them. So whether you are connected with them on Facebook, or Twitter … and you can keep notes, you can set reminders to remind yourself to contact them in a couple of weeks’ time; because sometimes you might meet someone and they said, “Oh, I might be looking [for instance, me] I might be looking for a website in a couple of months. Not ready now, but maybe in a couple of months”. So I’ll come home and I’ll put them in my Contacts list and I will set them up in Mingly and I will set a reminder in Mingly to remind me to contact them again in a couple of months to drop them an email.
So it is just a nice little way to help keep on top of – you know – who the person is, where you met them, what you discussed, all of those sorts of things and you can see your full contact history with them.
So that’s just a little tech tip. Sorry to interrupt.
Natalie: No, not at all! That’s a hot tip, I am learning so much from you, I wrote all that down. I love that! That’s perfect! You can do your networking all online as well!
Fiona: Yes, you can. Because I am so busy I find it hard to stay on top of who’s who and where I met people and what my contact has been with them in the past. And because it connects with your email, it will pull up all your old emails with them; it’s just fabulous! I love it!
Natalie: Perfect! That’s a hot tip, that’s a really good one. I write that down. That’s a keeper!
27:05 – Nat’s last 3 networking nuggets
And so I have got my last 3…
7. I have got a rule to book a meeting at every meeting. So every networking event that I go to I try to find somebody that I can connect to either that I can help them from a marketing or a networking perspective or at least connect some other people in the room.
Booking a meeting at every meeting is a great objective and it kind of is a followup as well and it just keeps you focused and it makes sure that you are gaining something from every event that you are attending.
Natalie: And… then the second to last one is:
8. Be proactive. So a lot of networking groups have a whole list of member benefits and it is really surprising to me that a lot of people pay for their memberships but aren’t proactive in taking up all the member benefits. And it is called “net-working” for a reason, and I would look at following up all the benefits as quick as possible and as much as possible, because a lot of the groups have a lot to offer and it is all included as part of your membership prize. So definitely being proactive.
9. And then last but not least – and I have said this a couple of times – there is not only to have fun, but to remember that the more you give the more you gain.
And that’s just a motto in life, really, isn’t it? Whether it be personal life or business life.
Fiona: You know, that is the whole ‘paying it forward’ idea? which I absolutely love and I think in general it does work that way. That is an amazing group of tips and I am just… I have been writing them down as you were talking because I think that just to even have them as a little mantra for… in your wallet when you go, just to remind yourself “Okay, today when I go…” until you can make them habit, because it is easy just to forget to do some of these basics.
Natalie: Yes, absolutely, and I am going to write that down and remind every lady on the agendas, because yeah, it is like a little good reminder and a little good refresher, and if you make it a habit, then that’s even better!
Fiona: Yeah! That’s right. I’m a big one for writing things down and just reading over them until they become habit because often you’ll hear things and go, “Oh! That’s SO good! That’s so good!” and you’ll be right for the first week or couple of days and then life gets in the way and you get distracted, or you get stressed, or you get sick or something … and then that new thing that you were going to incorporate into your life or your business all the sudden gets dropped on the side. And it’s not because you meant to, it’s because that’s just how our minds work.
So having it written down and having it somewhere you can see it constantly really does help to make it habit.
Natalie: Absolutely, I couldn’t have said it better myself!
29:38 – We want 10 winners: 5 networking lunches and 5 memberships if you answer one simple question
Fiona: Now, Nat, before we sign off for today’s podcast, we mentioned earlier in the show that we do have a very special offer for our listeners – women listeners – who are lucky enough to be around Sydney, Central Coast or Gold Coast regions, so we do have a little thing planned …
Would you like to first of all explain what our offer is and then I will explain maybe how they can get in the draw to get access to this offer?
Natalie: Absolutely. So we are giving the opportunity of a few options: a free lunch or a free membership to Success Women’s Network. We meet monthly for networking lunches.
So ladies if you are ready to network, especially if you are based in Sydney, the Central Coast or Gold Coast, we are really happy to give away 5 tickets to any one of our lunches and also 5 memberships.
Visit our website which is SuccessWomensNetwork.com.au – you’ll have all the dates and the details, but Fiona will be able to give you the details on how to enter the draw!
Fiona: So, ladies, if you do want to enter the draw to win one of these 5 memberships, which is such an accompl… I am just blown away at how generous you are being here … 5 memberships or one of the 5 lunch networking events just leave a comment below the blog where this podcast is published at SuperSavvyBusiness.com and explain why you think networking would be beneficial to your business if you haven’t already done it, or if you already are a networker and you have had some amazing success or some great stories to tell about how your business has benefited, then perhaps you could share that.
So there is two things you can do: you can either share a success story or comment on how you believe networking would help you to grow your business. So this is covering people who are already networking and people that maybe haven’t already done so just by leaving a comment in our blog.
Now, we are going to leave this competition open until the end of July. If you can get your comments in before the end of July, then Natalie and I will be selecting 10 lucky winners: 5 memberships and 5 lunches, and we will be contacting you via email and we will be publishing the winners on both the Success Women’s Network Facebook page and the Fiona Soutter Facebook page as well
Fiona: So I think that brings us to the end of our recording. So Nat, I would like to thank you once again for coming to our show today, I really appreciate your sharing your expertise and being able to offer these prizes to our community at Super Savvy Business is just so incredibly generous of you. So thank you.
Natalie: Thank you, I really appreciate your time and I am really looking forward to doing more work with you, and yeah, I have really enjoyed this time, I really appreciate the opportunity. so to all the driven savvy business women out there, we’re here to help you. Thank you so much and, yeah, have a great day!
Fiona: So thanks very much, thank you to all our community for listening to this show today – you will see a lot more of Nat around the Super Savvy Business Community. We are in partnership now, so get used to hearing Nat’s voice and seeing her image and the Success Women’s Network logo because Super Savvy Business and Success Women’s Network have a lot of exciting things in store, so stay tuned, and we’ll see you on next week’s podcast.
Bye for now!